Comments on: ActionScript: Beaten like a ginger stepchild

By: The Gobbler

The Gobbler — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:48:39 +0000

I love ActionScript and beating redheads

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 06:24:53 +0000

I think the designers, or deselopers, who decry the OOP focus of actionscript are just fearing or denying the coming complexity of web applications. With increased bandwidth and computer speed, web apps will be running near desktop levels of sophistication. You cannot just cobble together large projects with scripting and procedural approaches. The complexity is too much to manage and the ability for the software to evolve is stymied. There is probably going to have to be more of a separation of tasks for web 3.0 apps. The designers are still vitally important for interfaces and usability, but face it, the times they are constantly a changin. And if you can’t develop, then get out of the way. (and focus on design)

By: Jay

Jay — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:39:03 +0000

but… half of you list is not even about the language per se, but about adding new capabilities to AIR or Flash Player itself.

By: leef

leef — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:18:21 +0000

I love that as3 is OOP. Though it would be nice if there were more util classes, and tools to spur more rapid development.

By: xero / the.fontvir.us

xero / the.fontvir.us — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:21:59 +0000

enums, right? that just dousnt seem like it would be that tough. i agree w/ your “laundy wish list” esp private constructors and true abstract (classes/methods).

By: Zimmen

Zimmen — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:24:40 +0000

I agree with Sasha mostly

OOP is not something you should do halfhearted. Either go for it in full or don’t go for it … perhaps there could be a more dynamic loosely typed AS2-ish AVM alongside the Strict OOP one but please do not complain about the compiler then …. dynamic and loosely types means crappy compiler jobs too.

My favor is full OOP a-la Objective-C on top of a language like C and all this in AS

By: pavel

pavel — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:10:05 +0000

I think that aswering questions about language are useless unless you not answer question about platform direction. If adobe main goal would be put flash into mobile devices, why we need all that OOP sweetness? On other hand if Flash moves more to enterprise(or serious gaming), having all those features is a MUST, no question about that (can’t count times when I pulled my hair off my head and shouting “why?!” while doing larger scale project and I could not use all those features easily found in Java or C#). I really would like to see second option happen. But why to fight between simlicity and complexity? Why actionscript cannot support both?..wanna make some simple application? Do it dynamically. Having large multi developer project?..do it with generics, safe type etc. Well, in any case, Adobe should act very quickly otherwise competitors(Silverlight, Unity3D, Google, Apple…) will grap most of flash developer community and flash will became banner advertiser again(horrible imagination).

By: red head

red head — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:05:10 +0000

hey don’t worry bout it buddy, it’s fine, i had my rant/made my point, it’s cool )

By: sascha

sascha — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:01:51 +0000

@read head heh, sorry, English isn’t my mother language. Didn’t knew that this idiom sounds offensive! I was first about to name the title “Beaten like a dead horse” but then recognized that it doesn’t quite fit the situation and found the ginger idiom. I’m not too familiar with English idioms. Do you have a better suggestion?

By: red head

red head — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:42:59 +0000

@nick .. fair play, thank you, i never mean to get too uptight about it but it does happen, people can be really cruel to you and make massive assumptions on something you have no control over (hair colour) ..

i see the humour of course, a helpless ginger kid being beaten by an angry step parent and somehow he deserves it even more and it’s ok because he’s ginger and therefore of less value than other people .. i have a sense of humour you know but i just didn’t expect to see it in the context of actionscript!!!!!!!!!!

.. sorry everybody, back on topic … i think actionscript is a little messy right now but i think it’s still going in the right direction