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		<title>By: sascha</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/flash-for-big-games/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>sascha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the hint Dominik! Right, we still have FSCommands at our disposal. I almost forgot about them. I will try that command! The fullScreenSourceRect is great but as mentioned in my last comment, if you project a small area onto a very large resolution you get a lot of blurring. It would be cool if we had rasterization filters (Scale2X, SuperEagle etc.) for that like they are common with many emulators (WinUAE, MAME, DOSBox) instead of Flash only applying a 4x blur algorithm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the hint Dominik! Right, we still have FSCommands at our disposal. I almost forgot about them. I will try that command! The fullScreenSourceRect is great but as mentioned in my last comment, if you project a small area onto a very large resolution you get a lot of blurring. It would be cool if we had rasterization filters (Scale2X, SuperEagle etc.) for that like they are common with many emulators (WinUAE, MAME, DOSBox) instead of Flash only applying a 4x blur algorithm.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominik</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/flash-for-big-games/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Dominik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Sascha,
i&#039;ve also started to develop games for fullscreen air and am using fullScreenSourceRect to reduce the resolution. i don&#039;t know if somebody answered on your escape key question, but there is a way to disable the default behaviour.
Use fscommand(&quot;trapallkeys&quot;,&quot;true&quot;); and your fullscreen mode won&#039;t change back to normal on escape key.
3D in flash is too slow at the moment, but bitmap blitting is ok. You can make great games with 2D too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sascha,<br />
i&#8217;ve also started to develop games for fullscreen air and am using fullScreenSourceRect to reduce the resolution. i don&#8217;t know if somebody answered on your escape key question, but there is a way to disable the default behaviour.<br />
Use fscommand(&#8220;trapallkeys&#8221;,&#8221;true&#8221;); and your fullscreen mode won&#8217;t change back to normal on escape key.<br />
3D in flash is too slow at the moment, but bitmap blitting is ok. You can make great games with 2D too.</p>
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		<title>By: sascha</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/flash-for-big-games/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>sascha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I finally had some time to check out the stage.fullScreenSourceRect property (used in an AIR app). This would actually be quite satisfying if graphics wouldn&#039;t become so blurry if you scale a smaller screen area on a large resolution. In my case I&#039;m using a 1024x640 area and project it on a 1920x1200 screen res and things start to look quite a bit blurry. I&#039;d rather prefer it if things stay sharp ... even if pixely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I finally had some time to check out the stage.fullScreenSourceRect property (used in an AIR app). This would actually be quite satisfying if graphics wouldn&#8217;t become so blurry if you scale a smaller screen area on a large resolution. In my case I&#8217;m using a 1024&#215;640 area and project it on a 1920&#215;1200 screen res and things start to look quite a bit blurry. I&#8217;d rather prefer it if things stay sharp &#8230; even if pixely.</p>
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		<title>By: devu</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/flash-for-big-games/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>devu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing is...

http://www.viget.com/inspire/bi-directional-actionscript-javascript-communication

Few years ago Adobe binged thousands of talented programmers to the platform, with big hope that Flash is worth of the word &#039;PLATFORM&#039;. In my opinion if 3D and multi threading issue will not be resolved within next flash player release, flash will back to plug-in status only. And I am wondering... is this what Macromedia was intend to do with flash? Stay as processor hungry environment in other hand friendly to produce programmers from designers and let them go away?? I am getting pised of sometimes when I am reading blogs of Flash Player Enginers when they tryiing to calm us down with a bit sarcasm style when we realised that next cool feature is actualy one big disapointment.

Sad time for me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.viget.com/inspire/bi-directional-actionscript-javascript-communication" rel="nofollow">http://www.viget.com/inspire/bi-directional-actionscript-javascript-communication</a></p>
<p>Few years ago Adobe binged thousands of talented programmers to the platform, with big hope that Flash is worth of the word &#8216;PLATFORM&#8217;. In my opinion if 3D and multi threading issue will not be resolved within next flash player release, flash will back to plug-in status only. And I am wondering&#8230; is this what Macromedia was intend to do with flash? Stay as processor hungry environment in other hand friendly to produce programmers from designers and let them go away?? I am getting pised of sometimes when I am reading blogs of Flash Player Enginers when they tryiing to calm us down with a bit sarcasm style when we realised that next cool feature is actualy one big disapointment.</p>
<p>Sad time for me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NxtGen Media - The Freeman View &#187; Long Live Flash</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/flash-for-big-games/#comment-976</link>
		<dc:creator>NxtGen Media - The Freeman View &#187; Long Live Flash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sascha</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/flash-for-big-games/#comment-975</link>
		<dc:creator>sascha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Benjamin of course we all know Dofus! Great work if you ask me but as you said, it&#039;s not 3D. I never doubted that it wouldn&#039;t be possible to create such a 2D game in Flash. They seem to have some excellent graphic designers at their hand btw.

@Matthew I welcome it if we see more improvement for game development in the next player version but I can&#039;t imagine that it would be so terribly difficult for a company like Adobe to add hardware 3D to Flash. But if this would be impossible for the web runtime it should at least be supported for AIR where there&#039;s a lot more room for &#039;system-depending&#039; features.

Like I said in another comment I mean the AIR runtime in regards to the escape key. It is clear that this security restriction is valid for the web runtime. But in my opinion Adobe is overreacting there for the AIR runtime. I&#039;d like to be able to remap any key. Imagine a fullscreen game which allows the player to use keys to control all kinds of things in the game (and of course remap keys to your liking). In the heat of the fight, a combat or whatever the player accidentally hits ESC and is catapulted to windowed mode. I don&#039;t know about you but I would find this a herb let-down in any commercial game. Because you as the player would always need to care about not to press the Escape key. It&#039;s a bad design case, quite clearly. Sure it&#039;s not the end of the world but still I&#039;d like to create flawless games. Is that too much to ask for? Security restrictions like this are clearly misplaced in the AIR runtime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Benjamin of course we all know Dofus! Great work if you ask me but as you said, it&#8217;s not 3D. I never doubted that it wouldn&#8217;t be possible to create such a 2D game in Flash. They seem to have some excellent graphic designers at their hand btw.</p>
<p>@Matthew I welcome it if we see more improvement for game development in the next player version but I can&#8217;t imagine that it would be so terribly difficult for a company like Adobe to add hardware 3D to Flash. But if this would be impossible for the web runtime it should at least be supported for AIR where there&#8217;s a lot more room for &#8216;system-depending&#8217; features.</p>
<p>Like I said in another comment I mean the AIR runtime in regards to the escape key. It is clear that this security restriction is valid for the web runtime. But in my opinion Adobe is overreacting there for the AIR runtime. I&#8217;d like to be able to remap any key. Imagine a fullscreen game which allows the player to use keys to control all kinds of things in the game (and of course remap keys to your liking). In the heat of the fight, a combat or whatever the player accidentally hits ESC and is catapulted to windowed mode. I don&#8217;t know about you but I would find this a herb let-down in any commercial game. Because you as the player would always need to care about not to press the Escape key. It&#8217;s a bad design case, quite clearly. Sure it&#8217;s not the end of the world but still I&#8217;d like to create flawless games. Is that too much to ask for? Security restrictions like this are clearly misplaced in the AIR runtime!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Fabb</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/flash-for-big-games/#comment-974</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Fabb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My previous comment did not show through, and I&#039;m going to assume that&#039;s because I included too many links and it was possibly picked up as spam. So I&#039;m going to try again without any links, but mentioning other sites.

Anyways, all signs lately show that Adobe seem to be getting more serious about game development. A while back Mike Chambers, Ted Patrick and other Adobe employees twittered about a internal full day summit where the various product teams got together to talk specifically about game development. They even made a cool logo that we might see more of, which is a blocky Space Invaders-like character, where the bottom blocks are made up of the Flash, AIR and Flex logos. Since then Adobe launched the &quot;Adobe Arcade&quot; blog focusing on news about game development and Flash. Mike Chambers recently asked on his blog what new API game developers would like to see in the Flash Player. Also on Adobe Arcade, you can see pictures of Mike Chambers building an classic stand-up arcade cabinet to play Flash games on (I imagine this will be on display at MAX).

If you check out Jesse Warden&#039;s blog, you will see an interesting post with many of the links I mentioned above about Flash game development. He&#039;s guessing that this means Flash Player 11 will have a lot of focus on game developers.

However, I&#039;m not sure they will be able to get everything that game developers such as yourself have been asking for. Jim Corbett, who&#039;s on the Flash Player team has mentioned in his Flash Internals v2 talks that he&#039;s given at conferences that Adobe has been working on for some time hardware acceleration in Flash. According to him, Adobe have just been moving very slowly because of what they see as mistakes made with Director&#039;s Shockwave plugin when hardware acceleration and a 3D engine were added in.

Certainly, when it comes to 3D, it seems that Unity3D has a huge edge that I don&#039;t think Flash or Microsoft with Silverlight will ever surpass. As it&#039;s a custom plugin that has it&#039;s sole focus is on 3D compared to Flash or Silverlight where the plugin has other focuses beyond 3D. That said when it comes to Flash, the reach of the plugin will likely always dwarf Unity3D.

As for the escape key, I seriously doubt that will ever happen on the web for security reasons (do a Google search for the keywords: &quot;bunnyhero full screen scaring people&quot; to playful examples of how it could be abused). Not sure if Adobe will make the change for Adobe AIR, but I doubt it as they have generally been paranoid about security (with good reasons with the kind of backlash seen anytime there&#039;s a Flash security flaw). However, personally I don&#039;t think it&#039;s that big of a deal, as other keys can always be used instead of escape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My previous comment did not show through, and I&#8217;m going to assume that&#8217;s because I included too many links and it was possibly picked up as spam. So I&#8217;m going to try again without any links, but mentioning other sites.</p>
<p>Anyways, all signs lately show that Adobe seem to be getting more serious about game development. A while back Mike Chambers, Ted Patrick and other Adobe employees twittered about a internal full day summit where the various product teams got together to talk specifically about game development. They even made a cool logo that we might see more of, which is a blocky Space Invaders-like character, where the bottom blocks are made up of the Flash, AIR and Flex logos. Since then Adobe launched the &#8220;Adobe Arcade&#8221; blog focusing on news about game development and Flash. Mike Chambers recently asked on his blog what new API game developers would like to see in the Flash Player. Also on Adobe Arcade, you can see pictures of Mike Chambers building an classic stand-up arcade cabinet to play Flash games on (I imagine this will be on display at MAX).</p>
<p>If you check out Jesse Warden&#8217;s blog, you will see an interesting post with many of the links I mentioned above about Flash game development. He&#8217;s guessing that this means Flash Player 11 will have a lot of focus on game developers.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not sure they will be able to get everything that game developers such as yourself have been asking for. Jim Corbett, who&#8217;s on the Flash Player team has mentioned in his Flash Internals v2 talks that he&#8217;s given at conferences that Adobe has been working on for some time hardware acceleration in Flash. According to him, Adobe have just been moving very slowly because of what they see as mistakes made with Director&#8217;s Shockwave plugin when hardware acceleration and a 3D engine were added in.</p>
<p>Certainly, when it comes to 3D, it seems that Unity3D has a huge edge that I don&#8217;t think Flash or Microsoft with Silverlight will ever surpass. As it&#8217;s a custom plugin that has it&#8217;s sole focus is on 3D compared to Flash or Silverlight where the plugin has other focuses beyond 3D. That said when it comes to Flash, the reach of the plugin will likely always dwarf Unity3D.</p>
<p>As for the escape key, I seriously doubt that will ever happen on the web for security reasons (do a Google search for the keywords: &#8220;bunnyhero full screen scaring people&#8221; to playful examples of how it could be abused). Not sure if Adobe will make the change for Adobe AIR, but I doubt it as they have generally been paranoid about security (with good reasons with the kind of backlash seen anytime there&#8217;s a Flash security flaw). However, personally I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s that big of a deal, as other keys can always be used instead of escape.</p>
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		<title>By: archont</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/flash-for-big-games/#comment-973</link>
		<dc:creator>archont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 09:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sascha: It does work, but only if you&#039;re using the fonts in the embedded SWF. External applications can use embedded fonts only if they are named font objects (that is, Font.enumerateFonts(false) returns an [object Tahoma], not an [object Font]) - the only way to do so is to register the font class, however the only way to actually declare a font class is from the library, as doing a Font.registerFont with getdefinitionByName on the &quot;nameless&quot;, textfield-embedded font resulted in my IDE crashing. And errors. Of course Flash CS4 supports the [Embed..] flex syntax, but that, again, doesn&#039;t support  bitmap fonts.

As a code monkey I&#039;ve long given up noble ideals of making things work the right way. Sure, I use MVC and all that fancy stuff, but all that goes crashing down when I encounter one of the many bugs in Flash. Like, for example, code in your IDE suddenly stops compiling for no reason whatsoever. No compile errors, nothing.

The art is to take a dirty hack, wrap it into a clean and useful library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sascha: It does work, but only if you&#8217;re using the fonts in the embedded SWF. External applications can use embedded fonts only if they are named font objects (that is, Font.enumerateFonts(false) returns an [object Tahoma], not an [object Font]) &#8211; the only way to do so is to register the font class, however the only way to actually declare a font class is from the library, as doing a Font.registerFont with getdefinitionByName on the &#8220;nameless&#8221;, textfield-embedded font resulted in my IDE crashing. And errors. Of course Flash CS4 supports the [Embed..] flex syntax, but that, again, doesn&#8217;t support  bitmap fonts.</p>
<p>As a code monkey I&#8217;ve long given up noble ideals of making things work the right way. Sure, I use MVC and all that fancy stuff, but all that goes crashing down when I encounter one of the many bugs in Flash. Like, for example, code in your IDE suddenly stops compiling for no reason whatsoever. No compile errors, nothing.</p>
<p>The art is to take a dirty hack, wrap it into a clean and useful library.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Seiller</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/flash-for-big-games/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Seiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have a look at
http://www.dofus.com
it is done completly in Flash at least up to version 2.0, which should be on its way.
no 3d there, but still a quite big thing.
not speaking about the server side though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have a look at<br />
<a href="http://www.dofus.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dofus.com</a><br />
it is done completly in Flash at least up to version 2.0, which should be on its way.<br />
no 3d there, but still a quite big thing.<br />
not speaking about the server side though.</p>
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		<title>By: sascha</title>
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		<dc:creator>sascha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 02:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@iMAN Khabazian Yes I agree that Adobe should be looking more forward to game development. I guess they do at least for some part but then again it&#039;s really difficult where Flash is going because Adobe isn&#039;t exactly open about their directions with the platform.

Hardware 3D would be a key element for game development if Adobe isn&#039;t switching some gears higher and add that support to Flash they&#039;ll loose that market to other platforms, especially Unity3D. In fact for some people they already lost so if we don&#039;t see 3D support in v11 I guess it could become very difficult for Adobe to catch up on that market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@iMAN Khabazian Yes I agree that Adobe should be looking more forward to game development. I guess they do at least for some part but then again it&#8217;s really difficult where Flash is going because Adobe isn&#8217;t exactly open about their directions with the platform.</p>
<p>Hardware 3D would be a key element for game development if Adobe isn&#8217;t switching some gears higher and add that support to Flash they&#8217;ll loose that market to other platforms, especially Unity3D. In fact for some people they already lost so if we don&#8217;t see 3D support in v11 I guess it could become very difficult for Adobe to catch up on that market.</p>
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