How in the world can they change an MMORPG into a FPS when players spent time/money in their character?

How can you enhance a game by dropping professions from 30 to 9?

If SOE had any plans to make a star wars FPS they should have made a separate game. Making jedi a starting class, that is the worst thing you can do to a community that wants to value jedi and keep them rare and valuable. I will never give SOE another penny of my money and hope that everyone else who hears about this does the same. I am not 100% sure about this, but since playstation is made by Sony or SOE, I will never purchase anything of that type.

I only played a few months of pre-NGE SWG, but I have had plenty of experience with MMORPGS and I can tell you this is the worst and most unimaginable thing I can see in an MMORPG. And I thought Everquest nerfs and continuous expansions were bad.

Sony has handled this in the worst possible way by lying to the community, not being honest, ignoring the player community(which drives the MMORPG), and deserves to lose much more money than they are losing right now. It is sad that Sony will probably recover from this from other games and will likely continue to make profits. I rarely post on messageboards, but this NGE thing I just heard about is so bad I have to post my thoughts.

Its a tragedy for this to happen. Buy a xbox 360 or nintendo Wii. Do NOT buy a PS3.

360 and wii may not equal PS3 in gaming quality all the time, but at least they are more reliable and won’t pull a NGE on you.

Most vets were ok with CU, seeing it as something that needed to just spice up the game, maybe a little too far, but still maybe needed. So us vettes who owned millions of credits from mindless camping and exploiting and whatnot grew fond of CU, not really missing the old SWG as much as we were going to in a month or two.

As it was said earlier, TooW was a scam to get people to run their money before they heard the terrible news about NGE. SWG knew exactly how they were going to ruin this game, and just like all the “myths” they created before about SOE sabotaging SWG for EQ and EQ2 to gain more players, i believe it that much more. Not only did SOE destroy the greatest MMORPG i have ever played, but they did it on purpose. They kept the news from the players, leading them to think nothing was to happen, why? because they knew people would leave before they could cash one more time on us gullable purses.

I have to say this to you SOE.

F**k you for ruining a great part of my life that actually improved it until you went and ruined what little part i had left after CU.
/salute for rising to the top, and then pushing the game out the window as you climbed in your elevator and safely ran off with the money that was needed.

I hope to god EQ and EQ2 get the people you want, just so another crazy EQ player can come to your studio and shoot you for the travesty you have beseeched upon us.

Evil people always get hit by the boomerang as it flies back >:)

I tested the buggy crap known as the cu. Hated it. Even though I could now stand toe to toe with a jedi and actually inflict damage. I just didn’t like the changes made to grouping and professions/templates. I left for a few months.

Ironically. I came back because of the NGE. I liked it for the first two days. Gritted through another two and a half weeks. And finally let my toon die a respectable death. The NGE is some half witted scheme to port a PC game of the MMORPG genere to the PS3.

Will it work? Most likely not. Alot of us PC gamers also have gaming consoles for the change of pace. SOE’s reputation in handling this game has tanked. SWG has actually become a text book example of what not to do to an MMO and a harsh lesson that SOE continues to refuse to learn. Good customer service is good buisness.

So RIP SWG. I had alot of bittersweet times. If they want my buisness back. It’s going to take an act of god or a pre-cu rollback.

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Wait wut? Actions against or banning of an account for speaking your mind…that sound more like hitler weeding out his idea of the perfect race…if you dont like NGE you will be banned for treason!!! any similarities??

On an even more ironic note, there is a rebellion within the community…there is an EMU currently in the works to make your SWG client revert itself to publish 12.1, thats pre-CU everyone…it violates no law and SOE is mostly likely not taking action…unfortunately only about 500 people can be on the server at a time…more news and updates will be coming we fight for our game and our freedom, because if we cant have the freedom of choice in a VIDEO GAME…then life as we know it is over…lol…seriously though, i feel that SWG will bring back a “classic” server that is either pre-cu or cu when this EMU comes out to make a profit off of the poor EMU creators rebellion

soe should give us all back the game we bought and payed for make the people who pay you happy or give our money back with interest for just sittin here til somethneg better comes along. I really hope soe can figure it’s self out it would hlp them and us.

If you’d told me prior to LA/SOE doing this – I’d have laughed at you and told you to stop sniffing glue.

NO ONE could be that stupid.

I stand corrected.

There’s so many things i think that NGE did wrong to the excisting player base..
1. No item decay means no crafters anywhere.
2. no diversity means that everyone will use either roadmark equipment or looted (No room for fancy clothing anymore).
3. Weapons nerfed regarding PvP so that only some models are een worth of having.
4. ADK’s nerfed beyond recognition(Now totally worthless items).
5. Crafting is utter nonsense as of now(Resource quality and crafters skills count almost nothing in the process atm).
6. Melee professions nerfed beyond repair(i.e. you cannot hit anything while moving yourself).
7. Jedi’s nerfed to utter non-excistence(no armor for starters and lightsabres suck in damage).
8. No CH means no fun seeing people having found a rare pet from somewhere(i had CH/BE myself on one toon).
9. Armor proficiencys have nothing to do with those iconic pictures(i.e. spy has Ubese in picture but cannot use Ubese only battle, or Commando having Katarn(Battle) and can only use assault type of armor).

And the list keeps on going..

Now what to come of SWG in the future?
(“Everything is proceeding as i have foreseen”).
Traders will be removed from the game since no-one in their righteous mind would pick one.
Instead i believe that some of those trader perks will fall to Smuggler instead(Good or bad no idea there).
Jedi will stay nerfed for quite a long time since SOE does not wan’t everyone to be jedi(their own words from a year back or so).
Perhaps the Dev’s are working as hard as they can to implement repairing patches until some high-level suit comes along and says hey now, that other ubber MMORPG has that new cool content so we must have some too right guys..
And thus introducing some new “cool” feature or whatever and it brakes the game even further since most of all these new implementations take that time they have been doing these and not using that same amount of time to do repairing fixes and patches.

So that’s just some of the things i see wrong in SWG.
(Hae currently started WoW as it surely has loads of working content instead of zillion buggy quests that one cannot complete).

SOE doesnt fix things, they only know how to nerf and that is precisely why I left the game before JTL even came out.

33 customization options reduced to 9 poorly designed enforcements

Crafters given the shaft, the respec was a joke. (and the artisan ‘sub-templates’ idea sux balls

allmost no entertainers or crafters left, the economy clearly shifted to a loot economy. Just as predicted by the crafters, and denied and ignored by the devs.

Also hanging in there, but by a thread. if things don’t change back anytime soon I’m thinking of going to dark & light.. it seems those guys still have some feeling with the people that should matter: the guys that pay their bills!!

I’ve been a Star Wars fan for 25 years now. I was jumping for joy when I found out about SWG and bought it a day later. now close to two years ago.

And I was hooked, boy was I hooked! I didn’t like the combat enough to do it all day long but that didn’t matter. I was master dancer, master entertainer and TKM, so whenever I felt like it I’d go hunt some rancors or something.

The fact I could do this solo was what I did not like about SWG. There was absolutely no thrill in kicking a herde of rancors down dressed in my hawtpants

I think back at the CU with mixed feelings.

The combat was now great, there was teamplay, it’s propably the most enjoyable time I had on the hunting fields, surrounded by my guildys (what was left of them) and basically having a good time!

But the tapestry was cracked because a lot of veterans I was on very good terms with and who immensely loved the game left. my old guild got decimated and never recovered, some servers got hit pretty bad, others managed better, but whatever the extent, they all took their blows.

And we where just starting to recover! Many people had found a new lease on life for the game trying out….. creature handler.. they had bought TOOW for the CH necklace and where generally very excited.. untill the bomb fell.

The game got stripped of it’s essence, the total freedom of the game. Not being able to drop your profession is a huge mistake, not being able to be a hybrid has made many crafters either go combat or quit, and now there are rumours about player citys being removed and only certain zones would be citys, the rest barren.

I mean, who do they think they are?

US, the players, are what make or break the game, and it is US that they seem intent on chasing out of town, covered in tar and feathers. They kiddyfy the game, taking out all variety and complexity, stuff an FPS-WANNABE down our throats and expect us to swallow.. and still, I am swallowing

Why? 2 reasons.. My friends.. can’t bear to quit and turn my back on them, we’re all hanging in there. and I’m still a huge starwars fan and, whatever the devs try to do with it, is still the closest I’ll ever come to living it.

But I’m not the one that decides the fate of the game.

When there is nobody left to play the game with, and the servers lights go out forever, I’ll be left a refugee of corporate mismanagement and failure to appreciate you do not change the game so much as you go along, in whichever way you desire.

It’s like being dealer in a casino and saying, after the game’s been underway for a few hours: ‘right, time to change the rules, from now on you don’t need 21 but 6, we’ll only use 12 card decks, , no cheating allowed, except by the management’

If they wanted to make an fps version of SWG they should have gone and made SWG II.

The engine was never designed for this, if their idea of fast paced means trying to hold your mouse over a target and constantly pressing the button they are wrong!

and the FPS crowd will not come to SWG anyway, they have Battlefield, counterstrike, doom, you name it.. why would they decide to play a game for it’s fps qualitys if they’ve got so many high quality alternatives which all look polished, smooth and slick, with responses and weapon behaviour far superior to SWG?

The stuff you get while questing has stats on them, so need for a tailor has dropped to roleplay value only. BE clothing was the main source of income for a great deal of tailors, guess what, they quit!

No decay.. I’d buy tickets if the guy that dreamed up these changes was publicly skinned alive, painted in honey, and tied to a frigging ant hill!

SOE has lost the helm.. the ship is adrift in heavy weather.

Let us pray a worthy helmsman steps up and replaces the doped up sod that’s now running the show, to put some of the stuff we love back in to the game and get rid of this New Game Enforcements! (adopting the term, as it describes exactly what it is)

Hoping I won’t be orphaned, salutations, SWG brothers in arms (who where brave enough to read through my ranting )

By the way it looks like the workers at SOE will have to find themselves new jobs soon, perhaps emptying the bins or working at macdonalds !