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		<title>By: Pwar20</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-172</link>
		<dc:creator>Pwar20</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only played the first few months when SWG was first releashed (pre-NGE) and decided to quit only b/c I didnt have enough time for an MMORPG. SWG was one of the best games ive ever played and surpassed Everquest by far. The crafting was great, 30  professions was an excellent idea for diversity, individual housing and location another superb idea. The only thing I didn&#039;t like about early SWG was that u had to pay rent on your house even when you were offline, meaning it hurt casual gamers like me alot, but that was nothing compared to the NGE things im reading. Pre-NGE for as far as I knew was amazing and also did a good job keeping the jedi population at correct levels.


How in the world can they change an MMORPG into a FPS when players spent time/money in their character?

How can you enhance a game by dropping professions from 30 to 9?


If SOE had any plans to make a star wars FPS they should have made a separate game. Making jedi a starting class, that is the worst thing you can do to a community that wants to value jedi and keep them rare and valuable. I will never give SOE another penny of my money and hope that everyone else who hears about this does the same. I am not 100% sure about this, but since playstation is made by Sony or SOE, I will never purchase anything of that type.

I only played a few months of pre-NGE SWG, but I have had plenty of experience with MMORPGS and I can tell you this is the worst and most unimaginable thing I can see in an MMORPG. And I thought Everquest nerfs and continuous expansions were bad.


Sony has handled this in the worst possible way by lying to the community, not being honest, ignoring the player community(which drives the MMORPG), and deserves to lose much more money than they are losing right now. It is sad that Sony will probably recover from this from other games and will likely continue to make profits. I rarely post on messageboards, but this NGE thing I just heard about is so bad I have to post my thoughts.



Its a tragedy for this to happen. Buy a xbox 360 or nintendo Wii. Do NOT buy a PS3.

360 and wii may not equal PS3 in gaming quality all the time, but at least they are more reliable and won&#039;t pull a NGE on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only played the first few months when SWG was first releashed (pre-NGE) and decided to quit only b/c I didnt have enough time for an MMORPG. SWG was one of the best games ive ever played and surpassed Everquest by far. The crafting was great, 30  professions was an excellent idea for diversity, individual housing and location another superb idea. The only thing I didn&#8217;t like about early SWG was that u had to pay rent on your house even when you were offline, meaning it hurt casual gamers like me alot, but that was nothing compared to the NGE things im reading. Pre-NGE for as far as I knew was amazing and also did a good job keeping the jedi population at correct levels.</p>
<p>How in the world can they change an MMORPG into a FPS when players spent time/money in their character?</p>
<p>How can you enhance a game by dropping professions from 30 to 9?</p>
<p>If SOE had any plans to make a star wars FPS they should have made a separate game. Making jedi a starting class, that is the worst thing you can do to a community that wants to value jedi and keep them rare and valuable. I will never give SOE another penny of my money and hope that everyone else who hears about this does the same. I am not 100% sure about this, but since playstation is made by Sony or SOE, I will never purchase anything of that type.</p>
<p>I only played a few months of pre-NGE SWG, but I have had plenty of experience with MMORPGS and I can tell you this is the worst and most unimaginable thing I can see in an MMORPG. And I thought Everquest nerfs and continuous expansions were bad.</p>
<p>Sony has handled this in the worst possible way by lying to the community, not being honest, ignoring the player community(which drives the MMORPG), and deserves to lose much more money than they are losing right now. It is sad that Sony will probably recover from this from other games and will likely continue to make profits. I rarely post on messageboards, but this NGE thing I just heard about is so bad I have to post my thoughts.</p>
<p>Its a tragedy for this to happen. Buy a xbox 360 or nintendo Wii. Do NOT buy a PS3.</p>
<p>360 and wii may not equal PS3 in gaming quality all the time, but at least they are more reliable and won&#8217;t pull a NGE on you.</p>
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		<title>By: okrona</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>okrona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 13:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry about that it was supposed to read (6 million at last count?)  not the other word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry about that it was supposed to read (6 million at last count?)  not the other word.</p>
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		<title>By: okrona</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-170</link>
		<dc:creator>okrona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Oct 2006 13:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all a case of WOW envy or phobia.   They were scared of WOW and the number of people it got into their game (6 million at last cunt?)  as where SWG had about 300k at their peak and they are down to about 170k or less?  SO this is why we have what we have  because of WOW and they saw it as a way to change things so they could jump on the cash cow band wagon.  Or could it possibly be that they should have never had someone from evercrack to take the helm and should have had someone from Lucasarts instead?    Just my little conspiracy theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all a case of WOW envy or phobia.   They were scared of WOW and the number of people it got into their game (6 million at last cunt?)  as where SWG had about 300k at their peak and they are down to about 170k or less?  SO this is why we have what we have  because of WOW and they saw it as a way to change things so they could jump on the cash cow band wagon.  Or could it possibly be that they should have never had someone from evercrack to take the helm and should have had someone from Lucasarts instead?    Just my little conspiracy theory.</p>
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		<title>By: colablue</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>colablue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2006 02:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im a beta 2 veteran here, played since before launch, and never stopped until the cursed NGE was released.

Most vets were ok with CU, seeing it as something that needed to just spice up the game, maybe a little too far, but still maybe needed. So us vettes who owned millions of credits from mindless camping and exploiting and whatnot grew fond of CU, not really missing the old SWG as much as we were going to in a month or two.

As it was said earlier, TooW was a scam to get people to run their money before they heard the terrible news about NGE. SWG knew exactly how they were going to ruin this game, and just like all the &quot;myths&quot; they created before about SOE sabotaging SWG for EQ and EQ2 to gain more players, i believe it that much more. Not only did SOE destroy the greatest MMORPG i have ever played, but they did it on purpose. They kept the news from the players, leading them to think nothing was to happen, why? because they knew people would leave before they could cash one more time on us gullable purses.

I have to say this to you SOE.

F**k you for ruining a great part of my life that actually improved it until you went and ruined what little part i had left after CU.
/salute for rising to the top, and then pushing the game out the window as you climbed in your elevator and safely ran off with the money that was needed.

I hope to god EQ and EQ2 get the people you want, just so another crazy EQ player can come to your studio and shoot you for the travesty you have beseeched upon us.

Evil people always get hit by the boomerang as it flies back &gt;:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im a beta 2 veteran here, played since before launch, and never stopped until the cursed NGE was released.</p>
<p>Most vets were ok with CU, seeing it as something that needed to just spice up the game, maybe a little too far, but still maybe needed. So us vettes who owned millions of credits from mindless camping and exploiting and whatnot grew fond of CU, not really missing the old SWG as much as we were going to in a month or two.</p>
<p>As it was said earlier, TooW was a scam to get people to run their money before they heard the terrible news about NGE. SWG knew exactly how they were going to ruin this game, and just like all the &#8220;myths&#8221; they created before about SOE sabotaging SWG for EQ and EQ2 to gain more players, i believe it that much more. Not only did SOE destroy the greatest MMORPG i have ever played, but they did it on purpose. They kept the news from the players, leading them to think nothing was to happen, why? because they knew people would leave before they could cash one more time on us gullable purses.</p>
<p>I have to say this to you SOE.</p>
<p>F**k you for ruining a great part of my life that actually improved it until you went and ruined what little part i had left after CU.<br />
/salute for rising to the top, and then pushing the game out the window as you climbed in your elevator and safely ran off with the money that was needed.</p>
<p>I hope to god EQ and EQ2 get the people you want, just so another crazy EQ player can come to your studio and shoot you for the travesty you have beseeched upon us.</p>
<p>Evil people always get hit by the boomerang as it flies back &gt;:)</p>
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		<title>By: Larry</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 00:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started this game at launch.  Admittedly had a few issues with it pre-cu.  Such as jedi rendering my beloved ranged professions obsolete in pvp.  But I still had tons of fun with it pre-cu.

I tested the buggy crap known as the cu.  Hated it.  Even though I could now stand toe to toe with a jedi and actually inflict damage.  I just didn&#039;t like the changes made to grouping and professions/templates.  I left for a few months.

Ironically.  I came back because of the NGE.  I liked it for the first two days.  Gritted through another two and a half weeks.  And finally let my toon die a respectable death.  The NGE is some half witted scheme to port a PC game of the MMORPG genere to the PS3.

Will it work?  Most likely not.  Alot of us PC gamers also have gaming consoles for the change of pace.  SOE&#039;s reputation in handling this game has tanked.   SWG has actually become a text book example of what not to do to an MMO and a harsh lesson that SOE continues to refuse to learn.  Good customer service is good buisness.

So RIP SWG.  I had alot of bittersweet times.  If they want my buisness back.  It&#039;s going to take an act of god or a pre-cu rollback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started this game at launch.  Admittedly had a few issues with it pre-cu.  Such as jedi rendering my beloved ranged professions obsolete in pvp.  But I still had tons of fun with it pre-cu.</p>
<p>I tested the buggy crap known as the cu.  Hated it.  Even though I could now stand toe to toe with a jedi and actually inflict damage.  I just didn&#8217;t like the changes made to grouping and professions/templates.  I left for a few months.</p>
<p>Ironically.  I came back because of the NGE.  I liked it for the first two days.  Gritted through another two and a half weeks.  And finally let my toon die a respectable death.  The NGE is some half witted scheme to port a PC game of the MMORPG genere to the PS3.</p>
<p>Will it work?  Most likely not.  Alot of us PC gamers also have gaming consoles for the change of pace.  SOE&#8217;s reputation in handling this game has tanked.   SWG has actually become a text book example of what not to do to an MMO and a harsh lesson that SOE continues to refuse to learn.  Good customer service is good buisness.</p>
<p>So RIP SWG.  I had alot of bittersweet times.  If they want my buisness back.  It&#8217;s going to take an act of god or a pre-cu rollback.</p>
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		<title>By: drcolossus</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>drcolossus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I&#039;ve heardd about the Emu thing. However I only believe once I saw it running live! It&#039;s a mystery to me how they can write an emu if they don&#039;t even own the original server side software.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I&#8217;ve heardd about the Emu thing. However I only believe once I saw it running live! It&#8217;s a mystery to me how they can write an emu if they don&#8217;t even own the original server side software.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaxsen</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-166</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaxsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 08:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I played this game since beta testing and i loved it from day one... i liked CU never complained, if you cant cut it in the pvp world there was soooo much more to seee so much more to dooo...anything you wanted, the choice..the FREEDOM was yours...It was entirely perfect, the best idea for an MMO since EQ...when they took away the freedom of professions that REALLY killed the game...id even take a shitty fps/mmo if i had the freedom to drop and gain professions as i choose!! not only that...the admins on the forums are giving up...they used to delete or lock anti-nge threads or anything related to them...seems like tyranical rule doesnt it? we are the SOE KINGS, with DIVINE RIGHT!!! gimme a break...heres a quote from a admin on the SOE official forums...

&quot;Locked for trolling, despite its misleading title. Again, this has been addressed in the past and it will not be implemented. Further re-posts of this topic will result in actions against your account. These threads offer nothing to the community because a rollback simply will not happen.
  swgmod001
SWG Forum Moderator
SOE Forum Usage Guidelines&quot;

Wait wut? Actions against or banning of an account for speaking your mind...that sound more like hitler weeding out his idea of the perfect race...if you dont like NGE you will be banned for treason!!! any similarities??

On an even more ironic note, there is a rebellion within the community...there is an EMU currently in the works to make your SWG client revert itself to publish 12.1, thats pre-CU everyone...it violates no law and SOE is mostly likely not taking action...unfortunately only about 500 people can be on the server at a time...more news and updates will be coming we fight for our game and our freedom, because if we cant have the freedom of choice in a VIDEO GAME...then life as we know it is over...lol...seriously though, i feel that SWG will bring back a &quot;classic&quot; server  that is either pre-cu or cu when this EMU comes out to make a profit off of the poor EMU creators rebellion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played this game since beta testing and i loved it from day one&#8230; i liked CU never complained, if you cant cut it in the pvp world there was soooo much more to seee so much more to dooo&#8230;anything you wanted, the choice..the FREEDOM was yours&#8230;It was entirely perfect, the best idea for an MMO since EQ&#8230;when they took away the freedom of professions that REALLY killed the game&#8230;id even take a shitty fps/mmo if i had the freedom to drop and gain professions as i choose!! not only that&#8230;the admins on the forums are giving up&#8230;they used to delete or lock anti-nge threads or anything related to them&#8230;seems like tyranical rule doesnt it? we are the SOE KINGS, with DIVINE RIGHT!!! gimme a break&#8230;heres a quote from a admin on the SOE official forums&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Locked for trolling, despite its misleading title. Again, this has been addressed in the past and it will not be implemented. Further re-posts of this topic will result in actions against your account. These threads offer nothing to the community because a rollback simply will not happen.<br />
  swgmod001<br />
SWG Forum Moderator<br />
SOE Forum Usage Guidelines&#8221;</p>
<p>Wait wut? Actions against or banning of an account for speaking your mind&#8230;that sound more like hitler weeding out his idea of the perfect race&#8230;if you dont like NGE you will be banned for treason!!! any similarities??</p>
<p>On an even more ironic note, there is a rebellion within the community&#8230;there is an EMU currently in the works to make your SWG client revert itself to publish 12.1, thats pre-CU everyone&#8230;it violates no law and SOE is mostly likely not taking action&#8230;unfortunately only about 500 people can be on the server at a time&#8230;more news and updates will be coming we fight for our game and our freedom, because if we cant have the freedom of choice in a VIDEO GAME&#8230;then life as we know it is over&#8230;lol&#8230;seriously though, i feel that SWG will bring back a &#8220;classic&#8221; server  that is either pre-cu or cu when this EMU comes out to make a profit off of the poor EMU creators rebellion</p>
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		<title>By: Enochlenero-eclipse</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Enochlenero-eclipse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 10:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a noob, I&#039;ve only played the game for about a year and a half or 1.25yrs or something. I&#039;m still playing today... Personally I think that your all right-agreement-I really think that soe would stand to make more money if they just did what will bring people back to the game and they will continue to make said money. Instead they loose all of their main fan base, and get a bunch of 12 and 13 yr olds borrowing their mom&#039;s bank cards and not really caring about anyone but themselves and getting to be a jedi and of course it&#039;s just &quot;ping&quot; ball for 14.99 a month I can play that on rumble swords (halo2) for 6.95 a month via xbox, at least bungie kno&#039;s how to keep all their grey matter between their ears. I won&#039;t cancel my account as long as my friends are there and as long as there isn&#039;t something better for my interests. I&#039;m a sw nut and it&#039;s better than nothing but screwing people out of the one resource that can&#039;t be gotten back\re-earned/ or bought TIME!!! and giving no conpensation is in my opinion a public rape of someones life. Now swg may very well die and when it does that&#039;s a good pretty penny worth of subscriptions that they could have had. Also, every developer on the game will have to live down the fact that when their division fails it&#039;ll be on their resume that their mmo was slaughtered by them and their proffiteering ignorence

soe should give us all back the game we bought and payed for make the people who pay you happy or give our money back with interest for just sittin here til somethneg better comes along. I really hope soe can figure it&#039;s self out it would hlp them and us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a noob, I&#8217;ve only played the game for about a year and a half or 1.25yrs or something. I&#8217;m still playing today&#8230; Personally I think that your all right-agreement-I really think that soe would stand to make more money if they just did what will bring people back to the game and they will continue to make said money. Instead they loose all of their main fan base, and get a bunch of 12 and 13 yr olds borrowing their mom&#8217;s bank cards and not really caring about anyone but themselves and getting to be a jedi and of course it&#8217;s just &#8220;ping&#8221; ball for 14.99 a month I can play that on rumble swords (halo2) for 6.95 a month via xbox, at least bungie kno&#8217;s how to keep all their grey matter between their ears. I won&#8217;t cancel my account as long as my friends are there and as long as there isn&#8217;t something better for my interests. I&#8217;m a sw nut and it&#8217;s better than nothing but screwing people out of the one resource that can&#8217;t be gotten back\re-earned/ or bought TIME!!! and giving no conpensation is in my opinion a public rape of someones life. Now swg may very well die and when it does that&#8217;s a good pretty penny worth of subscriptions that they could have had. Also, every developer on the game will have to live down the fact that when their division fails it&#8217;ll be on their resume that their mmo was slaughtered by them and their proffiteering ignorence</p>
<p>soe should give us all back the game we bought and payed for make the people who pay you happy or give our money back with interest for just sittin here til somethneg better comes along. I really hope soe can figure it&#8217;s self out it would hlp them and us.</p>
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		<title>By: Lail</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-164</link>
		<dc:creator>Lail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 10:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bought the game in may 2005 and couldnt get enough of it , i loved the group hunts and met some nice ppl .
i got to cl72 before nge hit and was really looking forward to hitting 80 so i could start making money and make my name in the galaxy , well there &#039;s no point in that anymore , my guild disbanded and now the city is looking like going down the pan too , I miss the way it was but mostly the lack of players
Soon to be cancelling 2 accts due to boredom
FINAL NOTE... why cant full temp trader respeck to full temp combat toon , yet combat toons can respeck to full temp traders ?...why cos they see the combat toons as the pinnacle of the profs:(
/sarcasm thx SOE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bought the game in may 2005 and couldnt get enough of it , i loved the group hunts and met some nice ppl .<br />
i got to cl72 before nge hit and was really looking forward to hitting 80 so i could start making money and make my name in the galaxy , well there &#8216;s no point in that anymore , my guild disbanded and now the city is looking like going down the pan too , I miss the way it was but mostly the lack of players<br />
Soon to be cancelling 2 accts due to boredom<br />
FINAL NOTE&#8230; why cant full temp trader respeck to full temp combat toon , yet combat toons can respeck to full temp traders ?&#8230;why cos they see the combat toons as the pinnacle of the profs:(<br />
/sarcasm thx SOE</p>
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		<title>By: Iemifai Ic-fey Bothan Spy Elder Creature</title>
		<link>http://blog.hexagonstar.com/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-galaxy/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Iemifai Ic-fey Bothan Spy Elder Creature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 10:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you all the way, doesn&#039;t this sound familiar? OH YES! 2 BIG WORDS, Chancellor Palpatine! This game was thriving, I still play to monitor how it goes and all I see is bare cities, players senselessly grinding for that next level which is rewarded by a SEEMINGLY different move but deep down it&#039;s all the same. All you get for level frikkin 90 is a crappy belt. Well I hope it gets better but who by that time all the vets will be gone leaving a bunch of smelly noobs to take over then they&#039;ll soon leave for new noobs. STOP THE NERFING!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you all the way, doesn&#8217;t this sound familiar? OH YES! 2 BIG WORDS, Chancellor Palpatine! This game was thriving, I still play to monitor how it goes and all I see is bare cities, players senselessly grinding for that next level which is rewarded by a SEEMINGLY different move but deep down it&#8217;s all the same. All you get for level frikkin 90 is a crappy belt. Well I hope it gets better but who by that time all the vets will be gone leaving a bunch of smelly noobs to take over then they&#8217;ll soon leave for new noobs. STOP THE NERFING!!!!!!!!!</p>
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